Decumanus, Porta Occidentalis (Ferrea) from inside of Diocletian's Palace (bld. 295/305 AD) in Split, Croatia

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Comments (19)

Monika (gušterica) on August 15, 2009

I remember these slippery, narrow streets:) Split is a really impressive place.

Maczelka-Rónyai Juli on September 26, 2009

+1

600m on April 13, 2010

Great lantern shot. I like that and have lots of such in my galery too -V-o-t-e-d- Best Of Panoramio. Best wishes and good luck in the contest from Germany.

silvestras on May 13, 2010

Hello, ZLATAN,

it's very romantic street, beautiful picture.

Cheers, Silvestras

Bernard Chollet-Rica… on August 16, 2010

Very special atmosphere haunted by a glorious past!

I've been twice in Split and I love your city.

Best greetings. Bernard

Zlatan Olić on August 16, 2010

I'm glad that you felt the pulse of Split, Bernard. These days, there will be annual celebration in honor of Emperor Diocletian and his villa-palace Spalatum, the roots of nowaday Split.

Greetings, Zlatan

Bernard Chollet-Rica… on August 17, 2010

Diocletian: a great illyrian emperor who failed in his visionary global policy... After him came Constantin.

A similar destiny had Charles V many centuries later.

Warmest greetings. Bernard

Zlatan Olić on August 17, 2010

Thank you for you additional comment, Bernard.

If you think of Charles V, Holly Roman emperor, unfortunately, I do not see between him and Diocletian many similarities except that they were emperors who abdicated ... everything else is incomparably.

If you mean that global policy is clasical imperialism, you're right. But his policy did't failed in the terms of modern imperialism called globalisation. Globalisation is strongest today's world's policy!

Diocletian's successor was Constantin, but Flavio Constantin who reigned only 1 year before on the throne came his son Constantin I (the Great).

Warmest greetings, Zlatan

Bernard Chollet-Rica… on September 16, 2010

Hello Zlatan Olić, I'm back home after holidays. I will explain my way of thinking this historical issue.

First today's globalisation has nothing to do with the antique time.

All roman emperors had to have a global policy. After the glorious time of conquest, roughly from Cesar to Trajan, their attention was principally focused by political stability inside the limits of the Empire and the governorship of it. The third century has been a period of desorders and weakness. Diocletian stopped it (I don't mention other emperors less important before or after him as his direct successor Flavio Constantin) by inventing the tetrarchy as a way to rule efficiently this huge empire and by struggeling against he christians of whom he was the last persecutor.

On these two point his principal successor Constantin the Great turned back completly these policies (but it was after Diocletian'death). By this way he invented a new way of ruling the Empire taking support on the chistian minority, very few in number of people but very influent with their ideas offering to the men an alternative to classical roman and greeck mythologies. One can think that anyway the christian religion would have overcome but it would have take a longer time and the christian churches would have been very different without the preeminence of the roman church. For example babarian kings were all arianist untill the conversion of Clovis that is another decisive political act similar, though less important for the whole western world, to Constantin's conversion.

My personnal comparison with Chales V of Habsburg stands in that this wealthy and mighty emperor had also great goals and failed in all of them during his lifetime . In stopping the Ottomans in the mediterraneum he suppported the Knignts of Saint John in Malta by he failed to take over Algiers. In struggling against the Reform he also failed and finally had to share the empire between his son Philip and his brother Ferdinand. He failed against Francis Irst of France in his project to restore the carolingian empire and to gain Burgundy that he considered as his real homaland.

But I like him because he has been a man of faith: his faith in religion was sincere meanwhile in was a political strategy first for Constantin. Both had faith in their political duties but Charles wanted to preserve his inherited values while Constantin wanted to establish his magnificence of which the city of Constantinole has been the symbol...

Well, I've been talking more about Constantin than Diocletian but it is the same historical issue.

Best greetings. Bernard

Zlatan Olić on September 17, 2010

hi Bernard, I hope that you had pleasant holidays ... welcome back

current globalisation (mondialization) is not antique one, I agree, but Alexander the Great's hellenizations and Roman Empire's romanizations were also - globalisations.

Diocletian, unlike Constantine, was not only a warrior and military scientist and politician-statesman but also an economic and legal expert of his time, and a great builder of the public goods. Constantin has learned from Diocletian and inherited many of the skills from Diocletian. one of the most important was the state policy of the Empire: religion was a mean of maintaining the empire. Diocletian maintained the Roman Empire with the struggle against Christianity, while Constantine I made the same - with Christianity.

it's all from me for now ... there isn't always enough time to cover all topics ...

Bernard, thank you so much for your excellent and distinguished comment, as for the honor you have made to me with your visit and your presence at this modest but sincere gallery...

Best regards, Zlatan

Bernard Chollet-Rica… on September 17, 2010

Hello Zlatan Olić I agree with you about Diocletian' contributions in the fields of law and economics; I just had no time to develop these points amongs the other topics. Religion was an important matter at this time (if not why percuting the christian minoriry) but I think it is hazardous or excessive to put in balance the policies of Diocletian persecuting the christians and of Constantine favorizing them outrageously with political and personnal purposes.

Best regard. Bernard

Mary-la on October 29, 2010

Your photo of this place stimulates the imagination. Very interesting Like Best wishes, Maryla

Zlatan Olić on October 30, 2010

Bernard, political and pesronal purposes of the state leaders determine the entire history... Diocletian acted as a Jupiter's son and Constantine liked to be also pontifex maximus, wearing the Apollonian sun-rayed Diadem(!)...

kind regards Zlatan

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thank you very much Maryla for your wonderful comment...

warm greetings Zlatan

braco aleman on January 24, 2011

Que Hermosa zona! debe ser muy lindo y relajante pasear por alli.

Filippo Bilotti on March 10, 2011

Hola,Zlatan.


Esta foto me gusta,LIKE4, esta foto es bellisima.


Saludos desde ,Caracas.

Filippo.


NO AL BLOQUEO DE PANORAMIO


Adinord on March 31, 2011

Schönes Foto!

Like5

Mit freundlichen Gruß,

Adinord

Rikimer on January 31, 2013

Beautiful memories of Split (has been a long time...), great scenery and point of view, Zlatan!

Like 6

Best wishes from Germany, Willi

Zdzisław Barut on March 22

Beautiful scenery. Like. Greetings, Zdzisław

Zlatan Olić on May 23

hvala!

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  • Uploaded on August 3, 2009
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    by Zlatan Olić
    • Camera: OLYMPUS IMAGING CORP. u780,S780
    • Taken on 2009/07/25 17:20:39
    • Exposure: 0.020s (1/50)
    • Focal Length: 6.40mm
    • F/Stop: f/3.300
    • ISO Speed: ISO80
    • Exposure Bias: 0.00 EV
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