Off to the Isle of Man, what make is motor bike?

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pedrocut on August 29, 2011

Starting out for the Isle of Man, to the TT before the Second World War!

David Brown Photogra… on August 30, 2011

Off the top of my head, I cannot help you, but I bet it wouldn't take me long to tell you what the bike is Peter

I think I see 2 exhausts.

Then were days eh?


David Brown Photogra… on September 2, 2011

Well, I spent a couple of hours last night working on this one and gave up and went to bed Peter

The writing looks like the Bantam logo but there never was a twin and the forks are wrong.

I went through the Birmingham Motor Cycle web site which has an excellent photographic record of most bikes from the era.

I am giving up at this stage and regret my confident words from above. I think if you take this to the BMCM they'll identify in a heartbeat!

Then let me know will you?

All the best ol' buddy - Jethro

pedrocut on September 3, 2011

Hi Jethro

I had put this query on the Birmingham History forum, and some said it could be a velocette?

I could only find pictures of the velocette from the other way round and so could not verify.

Best wishes Peter

pedrocut on September 7, 2011

Hi Jethro

Just me a older cousin for the first time who remembers my old man having a Velocette!

His father had a Rudge a bike that I had never heard of!

All the best Peter

David Brown Photogra… on September 8, 2011



Free Wheels on September 9, 2011

Hi Peter, The forward mounted gear shift along with the engine casing and exhaust make me think it isn't a Velocette or Rudge. Before you ask, I haven't a clue although, the casing looks like a James.

One of my wife's nephews goes to the TT every year without fail.

Great picture, should be on GE because it's of social and historical interest.

Jim Evans (AXOTA) on September 14, 2011

Now you have got me here Peter?

It is certainly pre-war around 1934 ish!

I don't think that it is a Velo, nor a BSA I just cant see sufficient detail on the tank although with a little imagination one could mistake the name for James...They were famous for their two strokes and their post war machines were fitted with the ubiquitous "fit all" Villiers engine..very noisy and equally smoky too!

Like Jethro, I can see what appears to be two exhausts but it may only be a single cylinder, like most Panther bikes..It could be a side valve engine and not a two stroke..

I've drawn a blank too!

Perhaps you might find these remarkable photos useful

friendly greetings!


David Brown Photogra… on September 14, 2011

The man's a genius!

Its a Panther - course it is. Single cylinder thumper with two exhausts Peter.

I saw the writing and it looked like the word Bantam but it looks more perfectly like Panther (note first four letters almost the same!).

Jim your a star.

I could talk myself into this being the bike.



Jim Evans (AXOTA) on September 15, 2011

Wherever did that come from I wonder..Is it the early onset of Alzhiemers..short term memory all but gone yet there we are..Panther would you believe!

I just feel much older than I did two hours ago :))


David Brown Photogra… on September 15, 2011

What - you figured it out Jim

I went through the whole litany of names and never thought of Panther

You're a genius man!


Free Wheels on September 15, 2011

Well done, Jim. Back in the early '60's, my mate's dad had a Panther combo. It's the one name that didn't enter my head.

Jim Evans (AXOTA) on September 15, 2011

That's right Mark, the old Panthers were almost always coupled to a side-car..the quintessential British combo..Their exhaust note stood out and those thumpers could be heard long before you saw them!


Jim Evans (AXOTA) on September 15, 2011

I cant identify the precise model but this one bares a remarkable similarity.

Other than the twin headlamps and pillion seat, wow!! that must have been a massive leap forward in the thirties!!

The girder forks and triangulated frame looks pretty close to me!


Jim Evans (AXOTA) on September 15, 2011

This bike could even be a late twenties model!

Free Wheels on September 15, 2011

:) I do remember it having it's own signature tune. I found thislooks pretty close to Peter's picture.

Jim Evans (AXOTA) on September 15, 2011

You've hit the nail on the head there Mark and as old as I am, it was before my time!~~~Jim

David Brown Photogra… on September 15, 2011

I would say Mark has it!

Can I finish my nap now?



Jim Evans (AXOTA) on September 15, 2011

Gawd! yev just wekened us up _Jethro!

pedrocut on September 16, 2011

Thanks Jim, Jethro and Mike

It is great to see such interest in this photo. I will now have to put the info on the Birmingham History Forum where there has been a great deal of interest.

But how sad to see how our great industries have declined!

All the best Peter

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