67C Recruit Squadron, Army Apprentices College, Harrogate, North Yorkshire, UK

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John Latter on November 21, 2007

Recruit Squadron Intake "67C" in October 1967 at the Army Apprentices College (ex Army Apprentices School), Harrogate, in Yorkshire.

I'm 7th from the left in the third row up from bottom, though obviously you'll have to click on the 'original size' link to see any detail.

Standard Info

There are four photos in this series altogether:

1) 67C Recruit Squadron Group Photo

2) 67C Recruit Squadron Close-Up

3) Senior Term 1970 Group Photo

4) Senior Term 1970 Close-Up

The Army Apprentices College Harrogate was a Royal Corps of Signals (Royal Signals, R. Signals) Apprentice Training College which trained an "Apprentice Tradesman", or "A/T", for various technical roles in the British Army.

I was trained to be a 'Radio-Relay Technician' (RR Tech), other trades included Radio Technician (Radio Tech), Technical Equipment Technician (TE Tech), and Telegraph Operator (TG Op). Technicians, who were basically lazy, served an apprenticeship of three years while the more alert Telegraph Operators got the job done in two.

The Army Apprentices College (AAC Harrogate, AAS Harrogate) was situated in the new buildings of Hildebrand Barracks on Penny Pot Lane when I joined while earlier intakes had been housed in the wooden 'spiders' of Uniacke Barracks (also on Penny Pot Lane). There were five squadrons: Phillips Squadron (whose members wore red flashes in their epaulettes), Penney Squadron (blue flashes), Rawson Squadron (yellow flashes) and Scott Squadron (green flashes). Recruit Squadron was split into four Troops, each named after one of the other squadrons (ie Phillips Troop, etc.,), and all 'rookies' wore white flashes. A sixth squadron, Bradley Squadron, was formed towards the end of the 1960s.

On arrival at AAC Harrogate I was allocated to Phillips Troop and my room NCO was A/T Lcpl (= Lance Corporal) Peter (Pete) Emmett who originally came from the Junior Leaders Regiment Royal Signals at Denbury. The recruits in my room were: John Latter (me!) from Dover, Dick Spiers from Folkestone, Christopher Muriel from Canterbury (I think), Alan Taylor (er, not 100% sure he was in my room), Steve Hughes from Ashford in Kent, George Walker from the West Country, and two others. If I remember correctly, our Permanent Staff ("PS") Troop Sergeant was Sergeant "Daddy" Groves of the Royal Signals.

I remember three other Dovorians being at Harrogate while I was there:

1) Kerry Manning: I first met Kerry at St Mary's Primary School (at that time situated in Queen Street) in 1958 and he became my best friend. We were both in St Mary's football team for 1961/1962 where I played left-back and Kerry played right-back. We then went to Dover Grammar School for Boys together. Kerry joined up a year earlier than me in the intake of 66C ("A" intakes joined after the New Year, "B" intakes after Easter, and "C" intakes after the Summer holidays).

2) Malcolm Hood: Malcolm and I both went to Christ Church C of E Infants School (alt. "Belgrave School") between 1955 and 1958. Malcolm lived in the Winchelsea area of Dover and I lived in Westbury Road and Clarendon Place. This meant we didn't see much of each other after school. After leaving Belgrave School we went to different Primary and Secondary schools so by the time I saw him at AAC Harrogate I only just about recognized his face.

3) The third Dovorian at Harrogate was a chap called "John" (I think) who came from the Elms Vale part of town.

I began at AAC Harrogate in September, 1967 and passed out in the summer of 1970. By that time I was an A/T Sergeant and had achieved a T3/T2 rating which meant I became a Lance Corporal on joining the Regular Army.

The College closed after the Final Graduation Parade on 2 August 1996 and the buildings are now demolished. The Google Earth geotag is approximate - if you have, or know of, any old maps showing the College's location I would be grateful if you could contact me at jorolat AT gmail.com.

Interesting Links:

The Royal Signals Museum:

The Royal Corps of Signals Museum is located in Blandford Camp in the beautiful Dorset countryside and only a stone's throw from the scenic and interesting Georgian Town of Blandford Forum.

It is the national museum of Army communications and the exhibits and displays show the part that communications have played in the many wars and campaigns of the last 150 years. The Museum collection is regarded as being of National importance and the excellent Archives are recognised by the Public Record Office.

This is just a preliminary note - I'll be revising it and adding a list of the names of the recruits (for the benefit of search engines) in the next few days.

The size of the archive photo had to be reduced in order to get it below Panoramio's cap of 5MB.

John Latter on November 25, 2007

I can't remember if it was "Penny Squadron" or "Penney Squadron" so I better put both in (for search engines 'n stuff).

pete67C on December 5, 2008

Hi John Just found this site 2nite having put aac harrogate into google search. Got a shock when I saw the recruit sqd photo appear when I clicked on yr site. Afraid I don't remember you fm h'gate but I only lasted 4 terms then went to Catterick. Wos in Scott troop and am standing 8 to yr left. Regards Pete Harwood or A/T P S Harwood as it says in the photo

John Latter on December 7, 2008

pete67C said:

Hi John Just found this site 2nite having put aac harrogate into google search. Got a shock when I saw the recruit sqd photo appear when I clicked on yr site. Afraid I don't remember you fm h'gate but I only lasted 4 terms then went to Catterick. Wos in Scott troop and am standing 8 to yr left. Regards Pete Harwood or A/T P S Harwood as it says in the photo

Hi Pete,

It's nice to hear from you! It's a life-time ago since we were at Harrogate, of course, but some memories of being there are still as vivid as if they happened yesterday.

What I'm going to have to do is to put up a list of everyone who is on the photo, then maybe it'll get indexed by search engines so that other members of 67C can find the place.

John

pete67C on December 7, 2008

Hi John,

It would be good to catch up with other members of our intake. I can contact Rog Dyer and Taff Clancy who were both in Penny troop. We all ended up as spec ops serving a 9 and 13 Sigs. There is a site for former members of 13 Sigs called BVA and have e-mailed Taff from there. Rog and I both work for the same firm tho' he is in Cheltenham and I live in Scarborough. The two Fentons from Penny came from here. Have not heard of Robin but Owen was in the local paper a couple of years ago refusing to pay council tax and declaring his house a republic !!! Was at 9 Sigs as a civvy from 1987-90 and Brian Gardener was there as a WO I and then commissioned I also met Danny Still who was in Scott but he got hit by a car whilst jogging and was cas-evac'd back to England so I never saw him again. Look forward to maybe catching up more of our intake ( there were 144 of us ). Regards Pete

John Latter on April 14, 2009

Sorry about the delay in replying, Pete, and thank you for the info about everyone (why am I not surprised to hear Owen declared his house to be a republic? lol).

After only 18 months, I've finally started to add the names of everyone in the photo:

Row 1:

A/T Lcpl M. D. Bennett

A/T Cpl B. Greenwood

A/T Cpl M. Pawlak (Mick Pawlak)

A/T Cpl W. Mann

Cpl R. C. Tyson, R. Signals (Royal Signals, Royal Corps of Signals)

Capt D. G. Braund, RAEC (Royal Army Education Corps)

Sgt D. Crane, R. Signals

Sgt B. A. Hulme, R. Signals

Lt. C. G. A. Whitehead, R. Signals

Sgt. D. Turner, Coldstream Guards

Sgt T. Brown, RCT (Royal Corps of Transport)

A/T SSM Headley

GSM M. Powell, Scots Guards

Major P. A. Spooner, R. Signals (Royal Corps of Signals)

SQMS A. R. Wilson, BEM, R. Signals

Capt M. J. Pethybridge, Y & L (York and Lancs)

Sgt R. S. Groves, R. Signals (Daddy Groves)

Sgt E. J. Rayson, R War Fus (Royal Warwickshire Fusiliers)

Capt C. Rawlinson RA CH D (Royal Army Chaplains' Department)

LBdr I. Price, RA (Royal Artillery)

Sgt M. Eraser, R. Signals

Capt A. J. Thomas, RAEC (Royal Army Education Corps)

Sig B. Smith, R. Signals

A/T Cpl C. Sidwell

A/T Cpl A. M. Ellis

A/T Lcpl M. K. Franklin

A/T Lcpl P. Emmett (Pete, Peter Emmett)

Please note, my contact email address is jorolat AT gmail.com where " AT " should be replaced by a "@"

John Latter on April 15, 2009

Row 2 :

A/T A. Brown (Apprentice Tradesman)

A/T M. J. McQueen

A/T D. Buckley (Des, Desmond Buckley - London)

A/T E. J. Pritchard

A/T A. Homewood

A/T J. C. Hinds

A/T T. W. McCartney

A/T M. R. Parks (Mick, Michael Parks)

A/T D. Martin

J/Mus A. Orchard (Junior Musician)

A/T J. N. Munroe (Julius Munroe)

A/T W. J. Connor

A/T Lcpl B. Etheridge

A/T Lcpl M. W. Wood

A/T Lcpl M. K. Johnson

A/T Lcpl A. Gratton

A/T Lcpl R. McKeagan

A/T Lcpl G. N. Watson

A/T P. V. Baines (Paul Baines)

A/T L. P. Bellizia

A/T W. T. Lemon (Willy, William Lemon, later Willy Paterson - Scotland)

A/T P. Muncaster

A/T J. A. Murray

A/T J. F. Clark (John Clark)

A/T C. Savage (Colin Savage)

A/T P. A. Bradley (Pete, Peter Bradley)

A/T M. Heaney (Mike Heaney)

A/T G. H. Ridley

A/T D. G. Still (Danny, Daniel Still)

A/T G. M. Evans

John Latter on April 15, 2009

Row 3

A/T J. D. Philpot

A/T G. R. Walker (George Walker - 'West Country')

A/T C. M. Tucker (Chris, Christopher Tucker - London)

A/T W. J. Dodson

J/Mus P. Kitson

A/T D. P. Stoneham (Dave, David Stoneham)

A/T J. R. Latter (John Robert Latter, John Latter, Jorolat - Dover, Kent)

A/T M. Graham (Mick, Mike, Michael Graham)

A/T O. S. Fenton (Owen Fenton - Scarborough, North Yorkshire)

A/T J. B. Williamson

A/T J. Wragg

A/T T. Powell

A/T L. R. Twells

A/T J. G. Smith (Smithy, John Smith - Scotland)

A/T P. S. Harwood (Pete, Peter Harwood)

A/T T. A. Barton

A/T P. Lavers (Pete, Peter Lavers)

A/T P. A. Gladwin (Paul Gladwin - Rainham, Kent)

A/T D. R. Sims

A/T M. J. Harris

A/T T. J. Clancy

A/T S. P. Hughes (Steve, Steven or Stephen Hughes - Ashford, Kent)

A/T M. James

A/T J. L. Linton (Johnny, John Linton - Scotland)

A/T J. Kelly

A/T F. J. Woolley

A/T P. D. Burnett

A/T E. J. Anson

A/T P. Henderson

[Previously omitted keyword: Signalman]

John Latter on April 15, 2009

Row 4 :

A/T J. P. Goodman

A/T C. J. Sweet

A/T P. L. Woodford

A/T K. J. Stock (Kev, Kevin Stock)

A/T K. P. Robinson (Ken, Kenneth Robinson - Scotland)

J/Mus J. Kenyon

A/T J. A. Hagen (Johnny, John Hagen)

A/T M. G. Lamarsh ('Curly' Lamarsh)

A/T K. Clement

A/T R. Fenton (Robin Fenton- Scarborough, North Yorkshire)

A/T N. H. Colville

A/T P. J. Moss (Phil, Philip or Phillip Moss - London)

A/T I. J. Mulvey

A/T P. J. Watson

A/T D. G. Naylor

A/T J. L. Falconer

A/T D. J. Bracey (Dave, David Bracey)

A/T G. A. Cardall

A/T P. M. Grassland

A/T R. Dyer

A/T R. Churm (Roy Churm)

A/T S. Gane

A/T K. J. Lightfoot (Kev, Kevin Lightfoot)

A/T C. Nelson

A/T D. G. Hughes (Taff, Taffy, Dave, David Hughes)

A/T W. H. Todhunter

A/T M. H. Uttley (Mick, Michael Uttley)

A/T N. Hatten (Neil Hatten)

John Latter on April 15, 2009

Row 5 :

A/T B. P. Gardener (Brian Gardner)

A/T R. Booth

A/T W. E. Poulter

A/T T. Harrison

A/T R. C. Muriel (Chris, Christopher Muriel - Canterbury, Kent)

A/T T. M. Hamilton ('Hammy', Thomas Hamilton - Stranraer, Scotland)

A/T E. H. Murphy

A/T J. C. Matthews

A/T B. I. Harffey

A/T P. I. Green

A/T I. W. Walker

A/T S. P. Cracknell

A/T M. R. Anderson

A/T W. J. Huffey

A/T D. A. Ware

A/T R. C. Lamb (Ron, Ronnie, Ronald Lamb)

A/T K. Williams (Kevin Williams)

A/T L. Johnson

A/T D. J. Ellison

A/T J. R. Gadsdon (John Gadsdon)

A/T A. P. Hanwell

A/T C. E. Knight (Chas, Charlie, Charles Knight)

A/T D. Boyd

A/T B. C. Horan

A/T P. M. Tomlinson

A/T J. R. Faffing

A/T D. M. Osborne (Den, Dennis Osbourne - Norwich, Norfolk)

John Latter on April 15, 2009

Row 6 :

A/T B. C. Weaver (Barry Weaver)

A/T A. R. Taylor (Alan Taylor - Basildon, Essex)

A/T R. McInnes

A/T W. J. McCallister

A/T I. M. Urquhart

A/T C. I. Denton

A/T R. N. Breeze

A/T R. Brierley

A/T M. Holland

A/T R. V. Brannigan

A/T R. S. Jarvis

A/T P. Hood

A/T H. S. Gowan

A/T M. D. McCarthy

A/T W. R. Spiers (Dick, Richard Spiers - Folkestone, Kent)

A/T C. Gomershall

A/T G. Hardaker

A/T B. M. Lacey ('Boot', Brian Lacey)

A/T A. C. Sutctiffe

A/T G. Richards

A/T G. S. Carney

A/T G. Thomas

A/T K. Radestock

A/T J. Fitzsimmons

A/T A. R. Finlayson (Alan Finlayson - Scotland)

A/T J. C. Murray ('Jock' Murray - Scotland)

A/T I. C. Hoggan

A/T K. Bimson

John Latter on April 15, 2009

Not Present

A/T Lcpl A. M. Potter

A/T Lcpl J. P. Conlin

A/T M. J. Gay

A/T R. T. Beck

A/T J. Graley (Jim, James Graley)

A/T S. B. Grandison

A/T R. J. Willoughby

alan finlayson on April 22, 2009

Greetings, Have just come across this site. It brought back many fond memories. I now live in Perth Western Australia and would like to hear from 'anyone'. Have been trying to contact both John Clark and John Murray from 67C for some time but have lost touch. Any help would be appreciated. Regards to you all.

John Latter on April 22, 2009

alan finlayson said:

Greetings, Have just come across this site. It brought back many fond memories. I now live in Perth Western Australia and would like to hear from 'anyone'. Have been trying to contact both John Clark and John Murray from 67C for some time but have lost touch. Any help would be appreciated. Regards to you all.

Nice to hear from you, Alan :)

If I come across John Clark or John Murray in my wanderings then I'll let you know.

I had an unexpected phone call with Hammy Hamilton on the 14th of April and yours is one of the names he mentioned.

Hammy is living in Germany, but because of how the phone call happened, he knows how to contact me but I can't (yet) contact him.

Anyway, once he gets back to me I'll let him know you're around.

Also, I'll be uploading an aerial view of AAC Harrogate soon (as it was between 1967-1996). If you're interested I'll be posting a link here which should then arrive in your email inbox.

John Latter / Jorolat

Part of the Images of Dover website.

John Latter on May 26, 2009

A satellite view of the Army Apprentices College, Harrogate (AAC Harrogate), showing how it looked from 1967 until it closed in 1996, has now been uploaded.

John Latter on June 10, 2009

I've re-titled the Facebook group to, "1967-1970 (esp. 67C-70B), AAC Harrogate, Royal Corps of Signals".

The 'blurb' now begins:

"A meeting place for anyone who joined the Royal Corps of Signals' Army Apprentices College, Penny Pot Lane, near Harrogate, North Yorkshire, at any time between the years of 1967 and 1970.

Intakes: 67A, 67B, 67C, 68A, 68B, 68C, 69A, 69B, 69C, 70A, 70B, 70C.

The group is also open to all those intakes prior to 67A whose members were still at the College at the beginning of 1967. [Etc.]"

John Latter / Jorolat

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BIGJIMTAFF on June 14, 2009

I WAS IN 67C INTAKE IN PENNEY TROOP THEN PENNEY SQUADRON JIM PRITCHARD I WAS IN THE SAME ROOM AS DAVE [TAFF] HUGHES IN OUR ROOM WAS CPL TONY ELLIS [TECH] JOCK URQUART [TECH] GEORGE RIDLEY [TG OP] JOHN HAGEN [TECH] TERRY POWELL [TG OP] JEFF CARNEY [TG OP] DAVE HUGES [TECH ON LEAVING THE AAC A2 TGOP WENT TO 22 SIGS, 3 ROYAL TANK REG, 224 SIG SQN, AND 13 SIGS. NALCOLM HOOD WAS MY MATE IN 22 SIG REGT AND HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE HE IS NOW. ALSO BILL HUFFEY [SCRUFF] WITH HIM YOU GOT INTO ONE SCRAPE AFTER ANOTHER GREAT LAD. NON OF US DID OUR ARMY CAREER CHANCES MUCH GOOD. DICK SPIERS LENNY BELLIZIA CAME ALONG LATER FOLLOWED BY PAUL MUNCASTER AND MANY OTHERS FROM HARROGATE. AT 224 SIG SQN MET GEORDY HARDINGHAM AND BOB CROCKETT 68A AND STILL MANY OTHERS. THEN ON TAKE 13 SIGS WHERE I GOT MEDICALLY DISCHARD IN 1973. AS FOR TERRY CLANCY WE TRAVELLED TO HARROGATE TOGETHER HE WAS IN THE SAME ROOM AS JOCK CHURM AND THE FENTON TWINS TAFF RICHARDS ALBY ORCHARD T MCARTNEY AND JUMBO GANE AND ROG DYER. TERRY TAFF AND OWEN FENTON IN ONE ROOM A HARD JOB FOR SID SIDWELL BEST WISHES BIG JIM TAFF

John Latter on June 15, 2009

A pleasure to hear from you, Jim, and thank you for joining the AAC Harrogate Facebook group.

I don't know if you read the first 'Comment' on this page, but Malcolm Hood comes from Dover, which is where I'm living again.

I haven't passed him in the street for a couple of years (I know he was a postman for a time), but I'll let some people know you would like to make contact with him again and we'll see what happens (he's got a couple of brothers and at least one sister, so that might make tracking him down a bit easier).

Some of the other names in your message also brought back memories: Dick Spiers was in my room when we first joined, and also in 22 Signal Regiment when I arrived there in 1970. Dave Hughes and I were in a lot of classes together, and Johnny Hagen was in a few of the classes, too (I also met him in London somewhere after I left the Army.

You've probably seen the other Facebook group, Jim, but for the benefit of future visitors, its called, "22 Signal Regiment, Lippstadt: 1970 - 1974".

Taff Clancy on February 22, 2010

You know you're getting old when.......... Big Jim has a very good memory for names. I do remember the first train journey from Newport to Harrogate via York. We all seemed to gravitate to the same carraige, collecting Roger Dyer (Spy) in Gloucester. I served with Roger a lot as a Spec Op and eventually Supervisors and will see him in May for the Spec Op reunion in Barrow on Soar. Always a good weekend if you are thirsty!!

John Latter on February 22, 2010

Its nice to hear from you, Taff, and if you're on Facebook, Big Jim is a member of the 1967-1970 AAC Harrogate Facebook group.

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