يا آل إسرائيل، لا يأخذكم الغرور
عقارب الساعة إن توقفت
لا بد أن تدور..
إن اغتصاب الأرض لا يخيفنا
فالريش قد يسقط من أجنحة النسور
والعطش الطويل لا يخيفنا
فالماء يبقي دائما في باطن الصخور
هزمتم الجيوش .. إلا أنكم لم تهزموا الشعور
قطعتم الأشجار من رؤوسها
وظلت الجذور..
well there wouldn't be any reason to put walls if palestinians weren't blowing up on Israeli streets. and the real porpose of the wall is to stop that phenomenon and it works!!!(not destroy olive trees or anything else), of course u can't build a wall around the entire civilized world, but locally it's a great solution. you might say:oh, but the first reason for the bombings is the "occupation". well it's the first and only time in history that people who are "occupied" bomb innocent civilians.
Know at least some of the facts before laying your mindless propaganda, and just for the record the IDF doesn't have a special unit for destroying olive trees...
Liron, pls refrain to use the word "propaganda" since I don't have commercial nor ideological reasons to publish these pics. Use Google Earth to make objective considerations. Israeli buondary is westword. Palestinian land confiscation, bulldozers protected by IDF armed soldiers and nearby illegal settlements are facts (unless GE falsifies satellite pictures).
If you want, suggest IL govt to build a wall 80, 100, 200 mt high, but on the agreed boundary called "green line".
The "security fence" in this case is used to include the Bil'hin municipal land in illegal Illit settlement.
If any doubt, consider to download
Green linePal townsIL settlementswall
anyway i don't think google earth should be a place for political battles. i dont think it's right to put all this pics but what the heck...
i dont know where u r from but u obviously dont consider all aspects of the arab-israeli conflict when u put all this pics desplayig israel as a demonic entity with the mere purpose to destroy palestinian lives.
well u make the assumption the israeli border is westwords.. what border?! u r taking about the 67' ceasefire line. few facts u should have considered before putting this pics in such a tendentious manner:
there is no such thing as a "palestinian people"- u r talking about merely a mix of arabs from the region, some came from jordan some from lebanon some are native to israel (meaning they've been there for the last 500 years or so, jews have been there for about 5000). there never been a palestinian state and this "nation" has about 35 years of history together. therefore, u can't say "occupied palestinian territory" because they never had one.the only reason for there national feelings is the terrorist known as yasser arafat.
second, most peole assume since the "occupation" things got worse for "palestinians"- well check out how they live in arab countries nearby...
and if they make trouble there... well u remember "red october"?(housain the father didn't like them..)
therefore it's an arab interest to support the foundation of a palestinian state which will make 23 arab countries altogether leaving israel with a narrow already congested and strategically threatened shoreline and mosly desert wasteland. oh, and then u give them "the right of return" to this new anorexic israel and that's it. "no more jewish nusanse in the middle east" like ben laden said.
third,u should remember israel is the historical home and origin of the jewish people, there were jews in israel before islam even started in the 7th century.we know the world hates us as the alltime favorite scapegoat for all human ills so just let us live peacefully and quietly in our own land!!!
so it's true the 6 day war resolted in this very unpleasant situation for both sides but look at the big picture-peace talks never worked because no "palestinians" will never compromise on "the right of return" or will ever acknowlege the existence of israel-the jewish democratic state- two things the arab world will never feel good with are jews and democracy.
Nice Innocent person you are !
If you choose to deliberately show thos pictures- you should use your own conscience, and to ask yourself: do you serve evil by merely not showing the other side of the conflict? Go to Gaza, show villas of Hamas and fatah leadres in background of outmost poverty of common people, show shhids, show qassam's injuries..... maybe, it is too hard for you to go there, because it is dangerous, and you only can defecate on secure territory, where you are protected by democracic country, while it protects you ?
Think of it !
I know it is very popular to project yourself as "liberator of humiliated and insulted" , but please, at least dont lie to yourself, that you are objective.
Yes, you are such victims, the Zionist are bad devils,
Too bad no one talk about my families lands that where taken by the Egyptian authorities. Now there is an Islamic school on their land in the center of Cairo. My father escaped to Israel with one suitcase.
Yes the Zionist really made such an injustice!!!
I`ll change your olive trees with my lost hectare of land in central Cairo, OK ??!!
Keep telling the same lies to yourselves that palestinians never existed. Refrain from propaganda if you expect the same from podiego.
Even before Abraham came to palestine,it was known at the land of canaan and the land of the filistines.
"And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of CANAAN, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God." Genesis 17:8
Whatever you claim, we know what is right...We know what God wanted from Jews before, and what God wants from them now. But you dont and you will never do You know what you "wrote" in your 'Torah'...and it seems you are content with it. Judaism was just the beggining but unfortunately you are taking it to the end.
The same fate awaits us, and the day of reckoning will give justice to all. The Lord is merciful, The Lord is great.
It may have been a longer term solution to the Israelies if they withdrew from occupied terretories 1967 as a kick off rather than building this wall which is eventually going to fall any moment , it did not stop the palestinians from reacting to the israeli army attrocities , the palestinians them selves wanted piece and coz we are not blood thursty as the israeli army
well i always prefer to rely on history rather then the Torah kuraan or whatever... sorry to desappoint u Doodz but this is'nt and never was a religious conflict. its a fight between two different worlds. A fight that unfortunately is undergoing all over the world since 9/11.
when all the europeans who live in a cage of gold (or a bubble u name it) wake up from their righteous dreams i just hope it won't be too late.
it's a worldwide war between extreme islam and the western world. and the "palestinians" chose the side of terror when they "democratically" (like they know what the word means...) elected "Hamas" -a recognized terrorist organization to lead them.
and by the way if the european bleeding hearts care so much about the suffering of others "less fortunate" nations, well 1 million died in ruanda few years ago(giving just 1 example on places to target the bleeding heart's concerns) and the world stood still but when palestinian citizens die in the west bank it's always the jew's fault and the entire world stands on it's feet protesting. interesting.. very interesting
so why won't u just leave us be and pay attention to your fast growing islamist populations in europe? london and madrid were just the beginning, maybe your right Doodz, doomsday coming... LOL.
oh and by the way a quick lesson in history for Doodz...
the Islam only started in the 7th Century!!!!! so how could abraham or god or satan, whatever, promised "palestine"(by the way filistines were greeks who setteled in southern israel in the biblical times and came from the isle of crete ,theybuilt ancient Gaza, Ashdod, Ashquelon and Gat)to the arabic islamic palestinian people?
even if u say palestinian people exist today as a nation that is, there is no way whatsoever they existed at 5000 BC!! untill the 7th century AD arabs were scatered desert tribes who practiced paganism, untill muhamad brought the new religion to them.and by the way, it's a fact (not being proud or something),that he was inspired by the jews... why muslims dont eat pork and commit circumcision? male circumcision that is, sorry but i have to admit, islam takes the full credit for female circumcision, nothing to do with judaism, 100% original islamist idea. good for u
well its true, just 2 years ago Hadera and Natania ( two israelie "settelments" inside the "green line")and the whole region known as Sharon were a favorite destination for sucide bombers due to very convenient location for the terrorists (the towns are only a few kilometers northwest of Qalqilia & Tul-karem).
since the wall......nothing!!!!! they just can't pass unnoticed. hopefully it'll stay this way.
to put it in one sentence: the wall works!!!!
it's the only solution due to the fact there will never be peace with the "palestinians". and if we have to cut a few olive trees to save even one israeli life SO BE IT!!!! let them cut an entire plantation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
okay now u must think:" but if the Israelies didn't put the "palestinians" in that awful postion in the first place and "occupy" their cities - terrorism would have never existed".
so let me save u your foreseen reaction:
never in history a nation under any kind of occupation or enslavement, including the jews, decided terrorism in the form of suicide bombers and alike is the answer for their suffering. moreover, the muslims invented the "shahid"- arab word for martyr, holy warrior..
history and it's past agreements (oslo, camp-david ect.) prove beyond any doubt that when you give the "palestinians" any kind of freedome to do what they want and go where they want-terrorism increases because it finds the way to israeli towns much faster.
3.After the Olso accords (93-94), when in the very first time in history the "palestinians" got an autonamy, a small amount of independence, and territories in the "west bank" THE BIGGEST WAVE OF TERRORISM EVER RECORDED STARTED TO WASH ISRAEL!! the guns we gave to the PLO turned against us. and "Shahids" made using public transport and just going to the supermarket or restaurant, a huge everyday risk!! people were filled with fear.
now did you consider All that when you said the wall is useless???
Comments
podiego, on November 3, 2006, said:
Brand new israeli wall eats palestinian land deep inside 1967 legal "green line".
RAGAB99, on December 12, 2006, said:
اللهم عليك بهم
RAGAB99, on December 12, 2006, said:
يا آل إسرائيل، لا يأخذكم الغرور عقارب الساعة إن توقفت لا بد أن تدور.. إن اغتصاب الأرض لا يخيفنا فالريش قد يسقط من أجنحة النسور والعطش الطويل لا يخيفنا فالماء يبقي دائما في باطن الصخور هزمتم الجيوش .. إلا أنكم لم تهزموا الشعور قطعتم الأشجار من رؤوسها وظلت الجذور..
Liron, on December 14, 2006, said:
well there wouldn't be any reason to put walls if palestinians weren't blowing up on Israeli streets. and the real porpose of the wall is to stop that phenomenon and it works!!!(not destroy olive trees or anything else), of course u can't build a wall around the entire civilized world, but locally it's a great solution. you might say:oh, but the first reason for the bombings is the "occupation". well it's the first and only time in history that people who are "occupied" bomb innocent civilians.
Know at least some of the facts before laying your mindless propaganda, and just for the record the IDF doesn't have a special unit for destroying olive trees...
podiego, on December 15, 2006, said:
Liron, pls refrain to use the word "propaganda" since I don't have commercial nor ideological reasons to publish these pics. Use Google Earth to make objective considerations. Israeli buondary is westword. Palestinian land confiscation, bulldozers protected by IDF armed soldiers and nearby illegal settlements are facts (unless GE falsifies satellite pictures). If you want, suggest IL govt to build a wall 80, 100, 200 mt high, but on the agreed boundary called "green line". The "security fence" in this case is used to include the Bil'hin municipal land in illegal Illit settlement. If any doubt, consider to download Green line Pal towns IL settlements wall
Liron, on December 17, 2006, said:
anyway i don't think google earth should be a place for political battles. i dont think it's right to put all this pics but what the heck...
i dont know where u r from but u obviously dont consider all aspects of the arab-israeli conflict when u put all this pics desplayig israel as a demonic entity with the mere purpose to destroy palestinian lives. well u make the assumption the israeli border is westwords.. what border?! u r taking about the 67' ceasefire line. few facts u should have considered before putting this pics in such a tendentious manner:
there is no such thing as a "palestinian people"- u r talking about merely a mix of arabs from the region, some came from jordan some from lebanon some are native to israel (meaning they've been there for the last 500 years or so, jews have been there for about 5000). there never been a palestinian state and this "nation" has about 35 years of history together. therefore, u can't say "occupied palestinian territory" because they never had one.the only reason for there national feelings is the terrorist known as yasser arafat.
second, most peole assume since the "occupation" things got worse for "palestinians"- well check out how they live in arab countries nearby... and if they make trouble there... well u remember "red october"?(housain the father didn't like them..) therefore it's an arab interest to support the foundation of a palestinian state which will make 23 arab countries altogether leaving israel with a narrow already congested and strategically threatened shoreline and mosly desert wasteland. oh, and then u give them "the right of return" to this new anorexic israel and that's it. "no more jewish nusanse in the middle east" like ben laden said.
third,u should remember israel is the historical home and origin of the jewish people, there were jews in israel before islam even started in the 7th century.we know the world hates us as the alltime favorite scapegoat for all human ills so just let us live peacefully and quietly in our own land!!!
so it's true the 6 day war resolted in this very unpleasant situation for both sides but look at the big picture-peace talks never worked because no "palestinians" will never compromise on "the right of return" or will ever acknowlege the existence of israel-the jewish democratic state- two things the arab world will never feel good with are jews and democracy.
canaden, on December 20, 2006, said:
Nice Innocent person you are ! If you choose to deliberately show thos pictures- you should use your own conscience, and to ask yourself: do you serve evil by merely not showing the other side of the conflict? Go to Gaza, show villas of Hamas and fatah leadres in background of outmost poverty of common people, show shhids, show qassam's injuries..... maybe, it is too hard for you to go there, because it is dangerous, and you only can defecate on secure territory, where you are protected by democracic country, while it protects you ? Think of it ! I know it is very popular to project yourself as "liberator of humiliated and insulted" , but please, at least dont lie to yourself, that you are objective.
Alon, on January 18, 2007, said:
Yes, you are such victims, the Zionist are bad devils, Too bad no one talk about my families lands that where taken by the Egyptian authorities. Now there is an Islamic school on their land in the center of Cairo. My father escaped to Israel with one suitcase. Yes the Zionist really made such an injustice!!! I`ll change your olive trees with my lost hectare of land in central Cairo, OK ??!!
podiego, on January 18, 2007, said:
Before going any futher, pls consider it's just a matter of democracy
easy version here
Doodz, on January 29, 2007, said:
Keep telling the same lies to yourselves that palestinians never existed. Refrain from propaganda if you expect the same from podiego.
Even before Abraham came to palestine,it was known at the land of canaan and the land of the filistines.
"And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of CANAAN, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God." Genesis 17:8
Whatever you claim, we know what is right...We know what God wanted from Jews before, and what God wants from them now. But you dont and you will never do You know what you "wrote" in your 'Torah'...and it seems you are content with it. Judaism was just the beggining but unfortunately you are taking it to the end.
The same fate awaits us, and the day of reckoning will give justice to all. The Lord is merciful, The Lord is great.
samimisa11, on February 1, 2007, said:
It may have been a longer term solution to the Israelies if they withdrew from occupied terretories 1967 as a kick off rather than building this wall which is eventually going to fall any moment , it did not stop the palestinians from reacting to the israeli army attrocities , the palestinians them selves wanted piece and coz we are not blood thursty as the israeli army
Liron, on February 4, 2007, said:
well i always prefer to rely on history rather then the Torah kuraan or whatever... sorry to desappoint u Doodz but this is'nt and never was a religious conflict. its a fight between two different worlds. A fight that unfortunately is undergoing all over the world since 9/11.
when all the europeans who live in a cage of gold (or a bubble u name it) wake up from their righteous dreams i just hope it won't be too late. it's a worldwide war between extreme islam and the western world. and the "palestinians" chose the side of terror when they "democratically" (like they know what the word means...) elected "Hamas" -a recognized terrorist organization to lead them.
and by the way if the european bleeding hearts care so much about the suffering of others "less fortunate" nations, well 1 million died in ruanda few years ago(giving just 1 example on places to target the bleeding heart's concerns) and the world stood still but when palestinian citizens die in the west bank it's always the jew's fault and the entire world stands on it's feet protesting. interesting.. very interesting
so why won't u just leave us be and pay attention to your fast growing islamist populations in europe? london and madrid were just the beginning, maybe your right Doodz, doomsday coming... LOL.
Liron, on February 12, 2007, said:
oh and by the way a quick lesson in history for Doodz...
the Islam only started in the 7th Century!!!!! so how could abraham or god or satan, whatever, promised "palestine"(by the way filistines were greeks who setteled in southern israel in the biblical times and came from the isle of crete ,theybuilt ancient Gaza, Ashdod, Ashquelon and Gat)to the arabic islamic palestinian people?
even if u say palestinian people exist today as a nation that is, there is no way whatsoever they existed at 5000 BC!! untill the 7th century AD arabs were scatered desert tribes who practiced paganism, untill muhamad brought the new religion to them.and by the way, it's a fact (not being proud or something),that he was inspired by the jews... why muslims dont eat pork and commit circumcision? male circumcision that is, sorry but i have to admit, islam takes the full credit for female circumcision, nothing to do with judaism, 100% original islamist idea. good for u
shimshon, on August 24, 2007, said:
The wall is almost finished and we already see the results! It's getting harder for them to Bomb us and we can sleep better at night.
Liron, on September 17, 2007, said:
well its true, just 2 years ago Hadera and Natania ( two israelie "settelments" inside the "green line")and the whole region known as Sharon were a favorite destination for sucide bombers due to very convenient location for the terrorists (the towns are only a few kilometers northwest of Qalqilia & Tul-karem).
since the wall......nothing!!!!! they just can't pass unnoticed. hopefully it'll stay this way.
to put it in one sentence: the wall works!!!!
it's the only solution due to the fact there will never be peace with the "palestinians". and if we have to cut a few olive trees to save even one israeli life SO BE IT!!!! let them cut an entire plantation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
okay now u must think:" but if the Israelies didn't put the "palestinians" in that awful postion in the first place and "occupy" their cities - terrorism would have never existed". so let me save u your foreseen reaction:
never in history a nation under any kind of occupation or enslavement, including the jews, decided terrorism in the form of suicide bombers and alike is the answer for their suffering. moreover, the muslims invented the "shahid"- arab word for martyr, holy warrior..
history and it's past agreements (oslo, camp-david ect.) prove beyond any doubt that when you give the "palestinians" any kind of freedome to do what they want and go where they want-terrorism increases because it finds the way to israeli towns much faster.
3.After the Olso accords (93-94), when in the very first time in history the "palestinians" got an autonamy, a small amount of independence, and territories in the "west bank" THE BIGGEST WAVE OF TERRORISM EVER RECORDED STARTED TO WASH ISRAEL!! the guns we gave to the PLO turned against us. and "Shahids" made using public transport and just going to the supermarket or restaurant, a huge everyday risk!! people were filled with fear. now did you consider All that when you said the wall is useless???
mahasidi, on February 17, said:
This is simply a road improvment project.
arielrud, on March 27, said:
Probably an arab road improvement project at that being cynically used for disinformation.
sindebad, 8 days ago, said:
Lied in everything, even the destruction of the earth and olives .... probably built the wall in the vacuum .. Not on Palestinian land