Richard Ryer
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Some of you have asked me what I do to take a picture of the Milky Way. I hope this helps. Taking pictures of the Milky Way is easy, but there are a few things you need to consider before going out into the night. Your tripod, camera body, camera settings, lenses and post processing are important things to consider before taking pictures of the stars. Before anything else, set the camera to shoot RAW. You can set the camera to shoot RAW and JPG, but whatever you do, create a RAW file for the image. You have much more post processing capability with a RAW file than a JPG file. Make sure you get a RAW file. The tripod should be stable. If you can avoid extending the legs, that will add to the stability. If there is a hook for weight, use the hook to hang weight to add stability to the tripod set up. If it is windy, try to set up out of the wind. Put the tripod on solid ground. If you are on rocks, everything can be moving every time you shift weight from one foot to the other. Use a timer and get away from the tripod and just let the camera do its thing. The basic goal here is to eliminate the tripod as a source of movement for the camera during the exposure. Unfortunately, a stable tripod usually equates to more money. I like carbon fiber. Put a heavy duty ball mount on the tripod. Just about any DSLR camera can take a star picture these days. At a minimum the camera must allow you to manually set the focus, the ISO, the aperture and the shutter speed. I can’t speak to the digital point and shoot cameras. When you get in the field you will need to focus the camera. Turn off your autofocus. Most cameras will not take an exposure in the autofocus mode when it can’t focus. The camera won’t be able to focus in the dark. Manually set your lens to “Infinity”. As a focus aid, I use a 5.0mW green laser to shine a spot on something a good distance away. Then I use “Live Mode” to optimize my focus on that spot. You should shoot with the widest angle lens (widest setting for zooms) that you have in your kit. I like the 16mm setting on my 16-35mm zoom. Wide angle lenses allow you to shoot longer shutter speeds and not get star tracks or visible motion in the star image. At 16mm I can have a shutter speed of 15 seconds. At 80mm I can only have a shutter speed of 3 seconds. The lens you use should be fast, the faster the better, because the faster lens lets more starlight get to the sensor. My 16-35mm lens is f/2.8 so it lets in a good amount of light. If your lens is f/4 or f/5.6 it will let in less light to reach the sensor. If your lens is f/1.4 or f/2.0 it will let in more light to reach the sensor. The faster the lens the better your results will be. I must clarify something about a fast lens. It may not be as sharp wide open as it is stopped down a couple of stops. So you may find that a 16mm f/4 is just as good as a 16mm f/1.2 that is stopped down to f/4, and costs one quarter the amount of the faster lens. So that is something to consider. The shutter speed is dependent upon the focal length of the lens. A 15mm lens will let you set your shutter speed at about 15 to 20 seconds. I stay down at 15 seconds to minimize star tracks. There are formulas that you can crank through to determine what shutter speed you can use for what focal length lens. These formulas are easily googled on line. Or you can take a picture, zoom in on the image and see if there are tracks. If there are tracks, reduce the shutter speed. Find the shutter speed for your lens that will give you the tracks you can live with. The ISO setting is the last adjustment you make to get the best image you can from your camera and lens. I shoot at ISO3200 to get enough light sensitivity to show stars. The problem with higher ISO values is noise in the image. With the camera set for lens, aperture and shutter speed, a lower ISO value may not pick up enough light to make an image. A higher ISO value may give an overexposure. So it is a balancing act to find the ISO value that gives the best results. Let’s take a picture. To try and optimize your ISO setting, put on your widest lens, set the lowest F stop value the lens has, set the shutter speed at 15 seconds, set the ISO at 3200 and take a picture. Look at the image and zoom in to the maximum. Can you see star tracks? Do the stars look like small dots? Do you even see any stars or is the image white and washed out? Remember, this is just a starting point for reaching your optimum settings. If you have star tracks that are short lines, change the shutter speed to a faster value. If the stars look like small dots, change the shutter speed to a lower value. You are adjusting the shutter speed to get the most light to the sensor with the desired amount of star movement in the image. Once you have the optimum shutter speed you can go back to the ISO setting. If the image is overexposed, reduce the ISO value. If the image is underexposed, increase the ISO value. If your LCD automatically changes intensity when showing you your picture, you will have no idea if the image is over or under exposed. The image will always be presented at the same intensity through boosting or suppression. In this case you will have to bracket the shot and pick the best one in post processing. High ISO values mean noise in the picture. Lower values mean less noise. Some cameras have more pixels, others have less. Some cameras have cropped sensors, others have full sensors. Some sensors are very sensitive and some are not so much. Some camera sensors have filters and some don’t. You just have to live with what you have, or buy a more expensive camera or a specific astrophotography camera. Your choice for how you want your star photos to look. For good star photos your sensor needs to be able to capture light. Here are a couple of other tricks that might help. Bring a red light. Most back packing headlamps have a red light. Red light has less effect on how well your eyes see in the dark. Light can be useful in the middle of nowhere. Bring a bright light source for light painting your foreground. Set the camera shutter timer to 10 seconds. This will give the camera/tripod system a chance to stop moving after you push the shutter button. Set the “Mirror Lockup” function on. This will prevent the mirror from shaking the camera when it flips up and the shutter opens. With mirror lock up the mirror is up a long time before the shutter opens and that gives the camera/tripod system a chance to stop moving. Buy a remote or cable trigger. This way you can trigger the shutter without touching the camera. Set the “High ISO Noise Reduction” on. Not sure what this does. Set the “Long Exposure Noise Reduction” on. The camera will take the picture and close the shutter. Immediately the camera will take a dark frame. The dark frame exposure is the same length as the first exposure. After the dark frame is done the camera compares the image to the dark frame and removes the hot pixels and some noise. Get noise reduction freeware. Google and download what you like. There are many programs available. Buy noise reduction software. There are many programs out there. Use the RAW image processing software provided by your camera manufacturer or something like PhotoShop. Post processing lets you reduce noise, adjust colors and generally improve the raw image. Well, that’s about it. Have fun and stay warm. My real job is Quality Manager at a small, precision machine shop in Longmont, Colorado, USA. We do work for many large aerospace companies and we have machined parts for satellites orbiting the earth, the moon, and Mars. We also have parts landed and roving about the surface of Mars at this time. My goal with photography is to capture the beauty of the out doors world we live in. I prefer winter and mountain landscapes. Living in the west provides many different places to visit where the picture taking is wonderful. I really appreciate the Panoramio community and all the friendly members. What a wonderful concept. Thanks for visiting. Cheers, Rich

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Fantastic view,beautiful shot.L.Greetings.Dana

Отличная идея для снимка, очень красиво. Like.
С наилучшими пожеланиями из России.

Great capture!. Beautiful picture Irina!. L + YS. Friendly greetings, Emily

A wonderful view. Looks great.

Greetings, Hans

A great image. Looks very nice.

Greetings, Hans


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I just read at the Forum :

Brian McClendon at 6:56 mm - 19/09/2014


I’ve been following some of the discussions on this forum regarding the future migration of Panoramio to Views, and I would like to expand on Evan’s statement with some context on how Panoramio and Views fit into the larger picture. First, let me be clear that we will provide an easy way for you to migrate all your Panoramio photos, their metadata, and their viewcounts to Views. Your photos will be saved into public albums in Google+ and we will provide you a Google Drive storage bonus to cover the additional data usage. And, when we shut down Panoramio, if you do not wish to move your photos over to Views, you can simply download them and not migrate. As the lead for Google Maps, a co-founder of Google Earth, and a passionate photographer, I’ve always had a great appreciation and love for the Panoramio community. The photos in Panoramio have helped countless people in Google Maps and Google Search to make decisions about where to travel. I believe Views is an important next step for us to grow the photography community to better serve the one billion people who use Google Maps every month. I want everyone to understand why we made the very difficult decision to migrate Panoramio to Views. Our reasons fall into the following categories: new requirements that mobile users have when using Google Maps increased availability of affordable GPS-enabled cameras, primarily smartphones technical limitations of old infrastructure The world has gone mobile. Smartphone growth is incredible. Google Maps has now been installed on over one BILLION Android and iOS devices. People use our mobile apps to navigate, but also to make daily decisions about where to go (restaurants, hiking trails, hotels, and more). People need to see photos for these locations. Sharing photos on Views and Google Maps is also about helping you create a beautiful photo map of all the places you go and helping you remember your experiences there (and perhaps even to help guide a friend). The more often you take photos, the better your map helps you. And, if you do professional work for clients, it’s about giving you more exposure to help you monetize your work and helping them maximize visibility for potential customers. When Panoramio began, few people had smartphones and nobody shared photos from them. Now most of us have phones in our pockets with optics and image processing abilities that produce excellent photos. Talented photographers everywhere are turning to smartphones as “their other camera” producing amazing images that challenge people’s expectations of what’s possible. And, non-photographers with a little creativity are discovering they too can now create good photos with their phone. And, of course, all of these devices have GPS, making it easier than ever to add photos to a map. Billions of smart phones are the key to enabling Google Maps to provide you with accurate, comprehensive, and recent photos that help you make decisions about where to go or recognize the location when you get there. Finally, Panoramio is built on old infrastructure that can no longer be maintained. We chose to rebuild it, and we did so in Views. This will enable us to provide more reliable services and far more features as the community grows. So, let’s get specific about what we’re doing... Here are the details about the migration to Views: Curation tools to customize your profile, since we recognize that photographers want control over how their work is displayed. This will include something like the “Best” feature that Panoramio has today. An easy-to-use migration flow to bring your full resolution Panoramio photos, metadata, and viewcounts into Views. If you’ve already exported Panoramio photos to Google+, you may have duplicates, but our album naming schema should make this easy for you to manage. We will migrate your viewcounts! For now, we suggest leaving your Panoramio photos where they are, but trying out Views for some new photos. When the migration flow is enabled, you’ll avoid more duplication and your viewcounts will be retained. If you choose, your photos that remain on Panoramio un-migrated will continue to be seen on Google Earth and Google Maps (far beyond the migration) if they are associated with a Google account. The following data and features will not be migrated: Groups (which has not been popular in Panoramio) Favorite photographers (though we’re considering similar features) Comments (since we can’t move comments to Views for those who don’t migrate) Thank you for being part of the Panoramio community and contributing your photos to help others explore the world. As we migrate to Views, which is a very new product, I assure you we will not do so until we believe the communities needs are met.

Thank you,

Brian McClendon Vice President, Google Maps

Nada: bonita vista de esta fortaleza macedonia junto al lago.


Saludos de Eliseo.

Nada: buena toma de este curioso olivo a orillas del lago.

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Saludos de Eliseo.

Danke schön, Jens!

LG von der Ruhr, Angelika

Nice beach. Best regards.



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